Stage 2: Rly low fps

Anytime. :thumbsup:

So, nothing really has changed for me, except Orbital Drill is not unplayable instead of Wraith Trap. Even on Minimum settings, the game drop frames seriously in certain areas, especially in combat. Other maps are giving me 40 tops too.

I am getting a GTX1080 tomorrow though, so i expect to get 60+ fps at Very High settings. Otherwise it would be a waste of 735€…

Hm, the GTX1080 doesn’t seem to be really helping. I guess the game does the shader building again, since i have set everything to Very High.

Keep us updated, please! I’m curious to know if once your shaders are rebuilt if things get back to normal.

Have the same thing can run game on ultra and it will get down almost at the same rate as then everithing is on low . Seems like changing graphics settings doesnt make a difference . I have downloaded bad shaders update before it was reverted, is this the reason ? .
My specs are : Processor: Intel Core i7-4870HQ, 2.5~3.7GHz
Graphics Chipset: 2 x NVIDIA GTX 970M SLI
Graphics Memory: 3GB GDDR5 each (6GB Total) .
Sorry I do not now how to make dxdiag thing.
P.S. Processor is also loaded for 100% .I hope you do not mine bitcoins :grinning:

We had another user whose CPU was maxed out in game, and nothing I told him would help. Game ran as a slideshow. Eventually he upgraded to Windows 10, and after that, Evolve ran normally.

I can’t tell you to upgrade your OS just for a game. Just out of curiosity, though, what version of Windows are you running? Do you keep it updated? I suspect something may be nonstandard about your system DLLs or DirectX DLLs.

Dudes, when you complain about performance, ALWAYS check GPU and CPU usage and their frequencies. Your general complaining tells us nothing.

Windows 8.1 no updates except of a few important

We recommend staying fully updated. Besides that, best bet is to use the self help topic and run down the list, particularly DX and VCRedist sections.

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Will do. Here are some more informations.

Area with 10 fps on Wraith Trap. Counter is in the top left corner.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Gunpriest/EVOLVE%2017.07.2016%2010_28_22_zps7p70llqk.png

System monitoring tools during that time.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/Gunpriest/cpu_zpsgztycrsf.png

It seems CPU load stays around 31% max, with some rare spikes to 60%, when i fight in one of those low fps areas. I will play some more matches on Wraith Trap and stay longer in those low fps areas.

EDIT: Well, after a fight in that area, the game dropped down to 1 FPS, then crashed with a device hung error.

Current DxDiag.

System Information
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      Time of this report: 7/17/2016, 10:37:43
             Machine name: HTPC
         Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 10586) (10586.th2_release_sec.160630-1736)
                 Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
      System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
             System Model: System Product Name
                     BIOS: BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10
                Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
                   Memory: 8192MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 8168MB RAM
                Page File: 4011MB used, 5437MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
          DirectX Version: 12
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
       System DPI Setting: 144 DPI (150 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: UnKnown
                 Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.10586.0000 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
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        Sound Tab 4: The file cmudaxp.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL).  You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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       D3D9 Overlay: Supported
            DXVA-HD: Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled
           MPO Caps: Not Supported
        MPO Stretch: Not Supported
    MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
        MPO Formats: Not Supported
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Today i did a clean uninstall with DDU and reinstalled a fresh downloaded Geforce Experience Beta and the latest driver. Then i verified the steam cache for the game. No changes. It doesn’t matter if i set the graphics quality to Very High or Minimum. I am getting 30 fps tops with a noticeable stutter, but no frame drops during the stutter.

I hope tomorrows patch brings more shaders. I have to stop for now, the constant low fps and stutter causes motion sickness for me.

At this point I don’t think the problem is missing shaders. Last build I checked, we are shipping the correct set of shaders, and even if we weren’t, your system would have locally built and cached them by now.

Edit: if you have not tried this yet, please delete your user data using the batch file here:

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Thanks, but too late for that. I suspect the old SSD I had Evolve installed on may be bad. I tried moving the files to my main SSD, but did something wrong, I guess. Steam is downloading the game again, which will take 9 hours.

If a fresh install on my main SSD isn’t helping, then i’m not sure what the hell is wrong…

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Ok. When it finishes, if the problem continues, you can still try that stuff, since userdata isn’t stored with the game, and Windows is Windows.

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No changes. Fresh install on my C:/ SSD and wiped the userdata with the batch file. Still having 12 fps in Wraith Trap and other maps run with 20-30 fps…

Edit: On Low setting i get 57 fps. Will try other settings, but shouldnt a GTX1080 give me Very High settings with that kinda fps?

Edit 2: At Medium i get 20 fps.

The 1080 should have amazing performance, I would think.

What resolution are you running at?

Our rendering programmer suggests you make sure that your motherboard has the right kind of PCI Express 3.0 slot for that graphics card. If it’s plugged into a less capable slot, you might not get the throughput you expect from it.

Dropping the graphics quality lowers CPU load as well as the GPU load. It also makes the game use smaller textures, lowering the amount of texture data that will need to be copied over the bus.

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And that, my friend, is what the problem was. I just had the same idea and opened my PC, put them card into another slot and WHAMBAMTHANKYOUMAM the game runs as smooth as a baby’s butt :smiley:

I am so dumb :scream:

But thank you for your patience and help!

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So glad to hear that! Credit goes to @jimmy, it was all his idea about the PCI slot.

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@jimmy <3 <3 <3

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The diode’s connected to the… Four Pin!

The four pin’s connected to the… M0B0!

The mobo’s connected to the… PCIE x 16!!!

That’s where you plug in your card!

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