Keep in mind I recognize that with proper hit and run you CAN win with him as I have a 75% win ratio as monster with only wraith. But against anyone that’s halfway decent at kiting and certain hunters such as sunny or jack it’s just impossible to assail them. I’m not asking to make him op again, just viable please. I hate that if I want to play monster it’s almost not an option to pick wraith if I want to get above silver expert.
Guys, “she/it/him/the thing” doesn’t have a gender. It’s not wrong to associate another pronoun with the gender-less Monster. Stop correcting when there’s nothing wrong. Realistically, the proper title should be “it”, but we like to personify the beastie, so the pronouns we use can vary depending on the person. “He” is as appropriate and accurate as “She”.
On topic, though, I feel the Wraith is viable as it is now. Not fun, or easy, but viable. Of course, I don’t play competitively, so I don’t have a handle on that scene. I’ve encountered tons of skilled Wraith players in pubs, though.
Something to look forward to is the next title update, in which she’s getting a rework. We’ll have to see how it is after that, though, to judge if he’s balanced.
Actually wraith and gorgon are females and this is confirmed by TRS. Their characters were developed keeping in mind they are ladies. Additionaly please note that even in the game they are reffered to as females (I. E. Short description in the selection screen, or the training video).
If you’re going to post in a syntax that suggests you’re listing actual “facts”, we expect a source. Link please?
Otherwise you’re just pretending your opinion is the truth and trust me, you don’t want to come across like that on a forum, I’ve tried it before and you’re not gonna win any discussions that way.
As for the topic at hand, @niaccurshi is completely right in the sense that Wraith is indeed the best pick for competitive play after Kraken, so she’s definitely still one of the strongest Monsters in the right hands.
Unless you’re saying the regular tournament players got it all wrong. Either that or yours are not the right hands.
You mean you can’t stunlock a Hunter to death anymore? Big whoop. Damn, now the Hunters have a chance to escape without using a crutch Support.
If it’s the lack of constant heavy attacks you’re talking about, note that aerial and ground heavy attacks now share the same cooldown timer, so you can’t keep using heavies in the air nor use 1 on the ground and then immediately expect a mid-air attack to be a heavy one as well.
Either nope or bug. Wraith’s still got the best range possible on her melee swings, only Gorgon comes close with her heavy I believe.
Only happens consistently against incapped Hunters, and it’s easy to avoid by taking 1 slight step backwards.
It’s an area of effect, not hard capped duration. If you stay in the white sphere all the time but still notice inconstistent durations then yes - it’s a bug.
I’ve noticed the angle and will admit to it requiring a bit more precision than with Goliath or Behemoth.
Not sure why this needs to be a value tweaked for every single Monster due to her wide melee arc. Bad spaghetti code, perhaps.
Nonetheless it’s still quite easy to free yourself of harpoons and compared to what the other Monsters have always had to deal with, all I can say is “Welcome to what every Monster has always had to deal with. Now you do too.”
It’s stasis. Surely you expect it to impact your abilities.
Decoy is getting a complete overhaul next patch so just be patient to see if it’ll still be much of an issue then.
(Insert shredder post about Wraith being a brawler here).
If you look at the different health bars of Monsters you’ll laugh at the concept of Wraith having low health. It’s really not the case anymore and even though she might still have some of the lowest health, this is countered by her high mobility.
Please, don’t use arguments in your favor just because countering them would require 2 full pages of text. You know why a faster Monster’s health is lower than the slower Monsters and I should hope it doesn’t require a lot of explanation.
What does this even mean? Sounds like a bug or some console-specific thing I’m not aware of.
Same goes for this list item.
Jack is a problem of his own and on top of that, play Goliath more often and I will guarantee you that you will no longer complain about Jack again as Wraith.
Also note that Warp Blast or Abduct doesn’t require any stamina to use so you can always drain the Repulser’s battery with your traversals instead of abilities.
Like mentioned above, she doesn’t stunlock anymore. Honestly the only reply I can give you to this is boo hoo.
That was a fix, not a direct nerf.
I watch almost all the tournaments, both friendly and ESL.
Furthermore I play against Gold Monsters all the time on PC.
Your argument works against you because it is simply false. Wraith is, after the flying sushi, still the most solid pick in higher skilled game.
On PC I guarantee this.
On console I can only assume so and if not I reckon it’s because console players have trouble aiming her abilities or staying on target.
Not meant insultingly. Read the “Is Behemoth OP?” -thread for more posts on this core issue.
Either you didn’t see it or conveniently failed to mention it, but a few posts down in that thread you linked there’s an announcement of it already being fixed in the next update.
Edit: A next update, not the next update. Congratulations on correcting that minor mistake. Clearly you’ve won the internet today.
Funny how the valid points you make (not in my opinion, but I can see why some Wraith players may deem them valid) are all pretty much bug reports.
Bugs are bugs. Unintended results of bad code. They will more than likely be fixed at some point. Do not include them in your balance PoV unless, admittedly, the related bugs have existed for a long time and don’t seem to be getting fixed anytime soon (looking at you, Goliath traversals!).
Your thread title is “Please make the Wraith viable”.
She already is viable and will be even more viable when some bugs are squashed.
Don’t seriously expect her to be buffed because there’s some bugs in the current update.
Are you saying I’m wrong and you’re right? Is it that simple?
What about everyone else who plays Wraith all the time and think she’s okay when ingoring all the bugs? Are they all wrong as well?
Surely you understand that you, one person playing on one specific platform, do not speak for everyone.
Lately I’ve been playing the “Abandon thread” -card a lot and I’m gonna have to play it now as well because I can already tell that this thread isn’t going anywhere.
Maybe it’s me? Feel free to say so if it’s me.
Otherwise I suggest you just read the many other posts about Wraith on these forums and watch gameplay videos of different players at different platforms and then compare them to your own playstyle instead of using your own experience exclusively to base balance discussions off.
In the X1 Battlefy tournament a Wraith won either the semi-finals or the one before that. Superbadjuju (if that’s how you spell it) casted that event so it should be still be fresh in his ‘past broadcasts’.