Anyone could help me with random frame drops on PC? [SOLVED]

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#41

I can’t afford to empty my pc due to works i have to do with school with unity. I’ll try to test that program. When i can, i’ll try to do a clean start of my pc


#42


So i ran the test and everything seems fine. I noticed 2 things:

  1. the test doesn’t diagnose GPU
  2. sometimes i get some random ALT+TAB commands while playing, like the computer wants to switch to another window randomly.

Any program to test the GPU? Just for diagnosis though just like this BurnIn Test.

Edit: nevermind, just found out the BurnIn Test has also a test for GPU and running it right now.

Edit: Edit: just finished the test and no errors appeared. I guess ultimately it’s windows’s fault.


#43

Funmark is what you seek


#44


Did the test. It was Furmark, not Funmark actually. Can you guys spot if there is anything wrong in the stats?

Edit: did the 1080 preset since my monitor is maxed at 1920 x 1080 and i would never go above that resolution until i get a new monitor eventually


#45

At first glance, no. It looks fine.

I’m honestly stumped. I might suggest you take all this to the PCMR subreddit. They’re way more knowledgeable and might have a better idea.


#46

hey, you know what… a long time ago i had very stupid issues like this and it turns out MS loaded a driver that messed with my monitors refresh rate. you should investigate its settings.

The above pics is the area you want to poke around in. I am looking for that one area, (may of been color depth) that i believe caused the issue, but it was one stupid setting that MS moved and not myself and I remember it was directly related to that. (this happened to me in evolve, and the convo is somewhere here on the forums with the fix… but were talking long long ago)


#47

wait before I go any further… since you can NOT do the system reset, have you uninstalled programs going backwards from your install order yet?

OH YEAH, ANY CREATOR WORTH THEIR SALT HAS A SYSTEM BACKUP AND CAN RESET ON A WHIM! BACK UP YOUR SYSTEM…


#48

I mean, i could do that, if i had time to do that though xd
Also, why backup when i can use git for my projects? git is gud lul


#49

just always keep a copy offline of work…


#50

Backups saved Toy Story.

Always backup… Always.
@Kathryn_James has nuked this problem quite heavily, but I’ll add a few things.

  1. if its consistent across games, its not related to the applications. Remaining options are os, drivers, configuration, or hardware.

  2. 700w is probably way way wayyyy overkill.

  3. if it’s effecting network traffic AND offline traffic, its not wireless or wired performance.

  4. you’re reporting a sporadic issue, a street test with performance over time graphs is ideal.

  5. look into disabling virtual memory options with windows 10

  6. disable windows 10 telemetry information.

  7. install software such as fiddler, or monitor traffic with a netstat command. (Fiddler will be easier to read). Play an ONLINE game. Record your fps over time with a third party app (tonnes out there).
    Look for a decrease in performance that lines up with a network call.
    The linked source (especially if its Microsoft), will provide information. Its most likely a backgrounf process.

  8. HDD will decrease in read effectiveness the longer they are used, and the more data that is stored on them.
    You should probably back it up if we’re expecting hdd issues.

  9. your GPU could have issues, check with the manufactor for driver/support information. GPU issues can get REAL weird. Just trust me on that one.

To verify, borrow a friends gpu and test. If the performance is consistent (on the other gpu.) Then It’s gpu related.

I could continue, but most of the steps I would suggest have already been done. If none of this works, it’s time to let a professional look at it. Sorry. (Most work places, if you use your personal pc for work stuff, the I.t. guys are usually nice :wink: )

There are some things that you probably dont have the tools to perform (I dont have the $600 tools either… Too expensive)…

The main goal is to isolate, and narrow down the cause. Look at it like solving a water pipe that’s blocked.
Gl hf.


#51

Nice rounding out… I still think the HDD is the culprit myself.


#52

Okay, i’ll try one more desperate time and see what happens after following all your points. I have to point out however that i doubt it is gpu hardware related. As said, a quick reboot, which takes 10 seconds (god i love ssd), fixes the thing for 4/5 hours. So i highly doubt it is related to hardware as it would have persisted after a brief reboot. A little news though: it seems that there is a random program that activates for literally 3 frames and then disappears in the process list in task manager, causing, not always, an hiccup, but always causes to switch window focus to another program in background at random.


#53

A hardware problem can be temporarily resolved by a reboot. Best of luck.


#54

Oh come on :frowning: at the moment i tried disabling telemetry and virtual memory. Nothing yet. Gonna try to monitor an online game.


#55
  Proto  Indirizzo locale       Indirizzo esterno       Stato
  TCP    127.0.0.1:10501        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50598  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:10502        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50599  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:49836        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:65001  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50600  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50606  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50608  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50609  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50598        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:10501  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50599        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:10502  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50600        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50603        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50604        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50606        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50607        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    127.0.0.1:50609        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:65001        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:49836  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:49714    40.67.254.36:https     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50589    40.115.119.185:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50592    104.16.120.50:https    TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50610    a88-221-145-73:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50611    a88-221-145-73:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50613    a2-17-126-176:https    ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50614    a88-221-145-73:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50615    a88-221-145-73:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50616    a88-221-145-73:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50618    mil04s26-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50619    a88-221-145-73:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50620    68.232.35.182:https    ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50623    mil04s03-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50624    104.16.199.132:https   TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50625    104.16.150.231:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50627    104.16.21.24:https     TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50629    185.40.64.65:2099      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50630    185.40.64.69:5223      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50633    104.17.49.19:https     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50634    104.16.34.99:https     TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50637    104.17.142.21:https    TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50638    104.16.20.24:https     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50639    104.17.51.11:http      TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50641    ec2-54-213-158-136:https  CLOSE_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50642    104.18.96.33:https     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50644    a2-20-251-18:https     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50645    a2-20-251-33:https     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50652    wk-in-f104:https       ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50653    mil04s26-in-f106:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50654    mil04s24-in-f35:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50655    wo-in-f188:5228        ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50656    mil04s22-in-f77:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50657    mil04s26-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50658    mil04s04-in-f33:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50659    mil04s22-in-f3:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50660    mil04s27-in-f130:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50661    mil04s24-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50662    mil04s26-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50663    mil04s04-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50664    mil04s27-in-f130:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50666    mil04s27-in-f142:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50670    64.71.168.222:https    ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50672    mil04s28-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50673    64.71.168.222:https    ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50674    mil04s03-in-f10:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50675    mil04s22-in-f3:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50676    mil04s22-in-f3:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50680    a2-23-14-238:https     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50681    a2-20-235-194:http     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50684    13.107.21.200:https    ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50685    13.107.21.200:https    ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50686    bingforbusiness:https  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50687    157.55.135.128:https   ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.103:50688    13.107.18.11:https     ESTABLISHED

So this is what i got with netstat without playing. Gimme a sec and i’ll start a netstat while playing. However, i started noticing that the hiccups are synced way often with a program that randomly activates itself (still can’t recognize which since it’s for a split second). Lets see what else i discover.

Edit: here is the netstat check while playing LoL

>   Proto  Indirizzo locale       Indirizzo esterno       Stato
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:10501        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50598  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:10502        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50599  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:49836        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:65001  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50600  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50606  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50609  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50749  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50753  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50590        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50754  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50598        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:10501  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50599        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:10502  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50600        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50606        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50609        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50749        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50753        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:50754        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:50590  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    127.0.0.1:65001        DESKTOP-NIJS6OE:49836  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:49714    40.67.254.36:https     ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50625    104.16.150.231:https   ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50629    185.40.64.65:2099      ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50630    185.40.64.69:5223      ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50655    wo-in-f188:5228        ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50657    mil04s26-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50670    64.71.168.222:https    ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50694    151.101.113.62:https   ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50720    mil04s22-in-f3:https   ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50721    mil04s04-in-f33:https  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50722    wk-in-f104:https       ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50724    mil04s24-in-f14:https  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50727    mil04s27-in-f142:https  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50728    mil04s27-in-f142:https  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50734    mil04s27-in-f142:https  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50739    mil04s22-in-f3:https   ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50740    mil04s03-in-f16:http   TIME_WAIT
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50746    104.17.142.21:https    ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50748    104.18.96.33:https     ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50751    40.115.119.185:https   ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50752    40.115.119.185:https   ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50755    104.16.34.99:https     ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50758    13.107.21.200:https    ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50759    13.107.21.200:https    ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50760    bingforbusiness:https  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50761    13.107.18.11:https     ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50762    13.107.6.254:https     ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50763    13.107.18.254:https    ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50764    server-143-204-10-214:https  ESTABLISHED
>   TCP    192.168.1.103:50765    a23-50-155-27:http     ESTABLISHED

#56

Found out the problem, still i have to figure how to fix it: the GPU simply gets a spike in Memory Clock and Core Clock every once in awhile. Any idea on how to fix this?


#57

msi afterburner. Set the clocks slightly under what is causing the issue. Sounds a lot like why there are so many RTX cards “failing” They aren’t technically failing but the clock rates they are set to by the manufacture is slightly higher than the memory can handle. Some people say its the memory degrading. I’ve been overclocking anything and everything for years. Its just clocked to high. Lower it and you should be stable.


#58

Ok, thank you very much!


#59

I watched this video just yesterday. He explains how he fixes his 2080ti by simply under-clocking the memory. https://youtu.be/t5memuI5WD4
Hope this fixes all your issues!


#60

Cool! Thanks! Now quick question as i can’t watch the video right now as i am ending to program a mobile game for school. If i give back my GPU and substitute it with another yet same GPU model, does this solve the problem or is it actually a problem by nature of the GPU model?